diff --git a/src/k_objects.h b/src/k_objects.h
index fe3e17783..c5e7dba5b 100644
--- a/src/k_objects.h
+++ b/src/k_objects.h
@@ -17,6 +17,7 @@ void Obj_HyudoroDeploy(mobj_t *master);
 void Obj_HyudoroThink(mobj_t *actor);
 void Obj_HyudoroCenterThink(mobj_t *actor);
 void Obj_HyudoroCollide(mobj_t *special, mobj_t *toucher);
+boolean Obj_HyudoroShadowZ(mobj_t *actor, fixed_t *return_z, pslope_t **return_slope);
 
 /* Garden Top */
 void Obj_GardenTopDeploy(mobj_t *rider);
@@ -218,6 +219,7 @@ void Obj_SetEmeraldAwardee(mobj_t *emerald, mobj_t *awardee);
 /* Fake Shadow */
 mobj_t *Obj_SpawnFakeShadow(mobj_t *from);
 void Obj_FakeShadowThink(mobj_t *shadow);
+boolean Obj_FakeShadowZ(const mobj_t *shadow, fixed_t *return_z, pslope_t **return_slope);
 
 /* Checkpoints */
 void Obj_ResetCheckpoints(void);
diff --git a/src/objects/hyudoro.c b/src/objects/hyudoro.c
index 51b87627e..552b77bfa 100644
--- a/src/objects/hyudoro.c
+++ b/src/objects/hyudoro.c
@@ -882,3 +882,21 @@ Obj_HyudoroCollide
 			break;
 	}
 }
+
+boolean
+Obj_HyudoroShadowZ
+(		mobj_t * hyu,
+		fixed_t * return_z,
+		pslope_t ** return_slope)
+{
+	if (hyudoro_mode(hyu) != HYU_PATROL)
+		return false;
+
+	if (P_MobjWasRemoved(hyudoro_center(hyu)))
+		return false;
+
+	*return_z = hyu->z;
+	*return_slope = hyudoro_center(hyu)->standingslope;
+
+	return true;
+}
diff --git a/src/objects/shadow.cpp b/src/objects/shadow.cpp
index 9aa88213c..58c670ca0 100644
--- a/src/objects/shadow.cpp
+++ b/src/objects/shadow.cpp
@@ -1,3 +1,6 @@
+#include <optional>
+#include <utility>
+
 #include "../info.h"
 #include "../k_objects.h"
 #include "../p_local.h"
@@ -19,6 +22,28 @@ struct Shadow : mobj_t
 
 	bool valid() const { return !P_MobjWasRemoved(this) && !P_MobjWasRemoved(follow()); }
 
+	std::optional<std::pair<fixed_t, pslope_t*>> z_position() const
+	{
+		switch (follow()->type)
+		{
+		case MT_HYUDORO: {
+			fixed_t z;
+			pslope_t* slope;
+
+			if (Obj_HyudoroShadowZ(follow(), &z, &slope))
+			{
+				return {{z, slope}};
+			}
+			break;
+		}
+
+		default:
+			break;
+		}
+
+		return {};
+	}
+
 	void destroy() { P_RemoveMobj(this); }
 
 	void move()
@@ -58,3 +83,27 @@ void Obj_FakeShadowThink(mobj_t* shadow)
 
 	x->move();
 }
+
+boolean Obj_FakeShadowZ(const mobj_t* shadow, fixed_t* return_z, pslope_t** return_slope)
+{
+	auto x = static_cast<const Shadow*>(shadow);
+
+	if (!x->valid())
+	{
+		return false;
+	}
+
+	auto pair = x->z_position();
+
+	if (!pair)
+	{
+		return false;
+	}
+
+	auto [z, slope] = *pair;
+
+	*return_z = z;
+	*return_slope = slope;
+
+	return true;
+}
diff --git a/src/r_spritefx.cpp b/src/r_spritefx.cpp
index 756e0a96e..ff0713bc8 100644
--- a/src/r_spritefx.cpp
+++ b/src/r_spritefx.cpp
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
 
 #include "d_player.h"
 #include "info.h"
+#include "k_objects.h"
 #include "p_tick.h"
 #include "r_splats.h"
 #include "r_things.h"
@@ -59,3 +60,21 @@ boolean R_SplatSlope(mobj_t* mobj, vector3_t position, pslope_t* slope)
 
 	return false;
 }
+
+boolean R_CustomShadowZ(mobj_t* thing, fixed_t *z, pslope_t** slope)
+{
+	switch (thing->type)
+	{
+	case MT_SHADOW:
+		if (Obj_FakeShadowZ(thing, z, slope))
+		{
+			return true;
+		}
+		break;
+
+	default:
+		break;
+	}
+
+	return false;
+}
diff --git a/src/r_things.c b/src/r_things.c
index 967006041..d94ed27af 100644
--- a/src/r_things.c
+++ b/src/r_things.c
@@ -1315,6 +1315,14 @@ fixed_t R_GetShadowZ(
 	sector_t *sector;
 	ffloor_t *rover;
 
+	if (R_CustomShadowZ(thing, &groundz, &groundslope))
+	{
+		if (shadowslope != NULL)
+			*shadowslope = groundslope;
+
+		return groundz;
+	}
+
 	// for frame interpolation
 	interpmobjstate_t interp = {0};
 
diff --git a/src/r_things.h b/src/r_things.h
index 642f788d9..8f74f5135 100644
--- a/src/r_things.h
+++ b/src/r_things.h
@@ -95,6 +95,7 @@ boolean R_ThingIsFlashing(mobj_t *thing);
 
 INT32 R_ThingLightLevel(mobj_t *thing);
 boolean R_SplatSlope(mobj_t *thing, vector3_t position, pslope_t *slope);
+boolean R_CustomShadowZ(mobj_t *thing, fixed_t *return_z, pslope_t **return_slope);
 
 // --------------
 // MASKED DRAWING